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Kenya\'s Kibaki re-elected president

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ives wrote

Controlling your wife is sometimes the hardest,most difficult job when married.....
[twinkle] (Hope there aren't any ladies reading this.... [help] )

i simply don't know what you mean:
as soon as i arrive home i get on the foot chain which is limited to the kitchen and dining room only. late night i get a transfer from the kitchen-dining room area to the bath-bedroom. and before ireally start talking i ask my husband whether i am allowed to or not......
he doesn't have problem at all - at least at home.........
you guys must be doing something wrong

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Original von Carsten
Eh? This is a public statement of the KTF?
Not a single appeal for justice or correctness or fairness or anything alike? Only an appeal to stop violence so they can continue making big money? People are fighting for democracy (maybe not in the smartest way but what other options do they have? Obviously not through voting!!).

In my opinion they should appeal to Kibaki to recount the votes !!

the main concern agents and their clients have is the following:

when making a booking with a camp/lodge one has to pay at least 20% within 14 days after making the booking in order to ensure the booking.
80% payable mostly 45 days prior to arrival.

an african country is different from european and as the latest turmoil has proven anything can happen at any time!

what about the camps/lodges in kenya? what are they doing in order to encourage people to book far in advance not knowing what is going to be the circumstance when the time for travel has come without the fear that they loose thousands of dollars? first the deposit and later the whole sum?
shall the agents take the risk ?
of course they can't. as a result they won't encourage people to travel to kenya until the very moment everything has been sorted out!
booking now seems like financial russian roulette.

up until now there is not one camp which is on one hand certain that there won't be any tourist at risk and on the other grants a money-back guarantee in case of further riots. not even the opportunity to postpone the trip and credit the money!
to me that doesn't sound sober

Link to this post 05 Jan 08

Why are the Kenyans fighting?

January 05 2008 at 04:36PM

By Tim Cocks

Eldoret, Kenya - Close to where 30 of their kin burned to death, thousands of Kikuyus are sheltering in another church, protected by a cleric from the same tribe that carried out the worst atrocity of Kenya's crisis.

Catholic Bishop Cornelius Korir is a Kalenjin, the ethnic group whose youths have run riot in the lush Rift Valley, killing scores of President Mwai Kibaki's Kikuyus after his disputed election win.

Korir has sheltered some 9 000 people fleeing Kalenjin gangs at Eldoret's Sacred Heart Cathedral, a few kilometres from Kiambaa, where a mob last Tuesday locked the doors of a church and set it on fire with Kikuyus cowering inside.


In a measure of the horror of the atrocity, witnesses said a desperate mother pushed her baby out through a window but the mob grabbed the child and threw him back into the flames.

"I've tried to tell people there's no difference between us," Korir said as families sat behind him on bags and mattresses.

"I look after all people, regardless of tribe.

"Normally, we co-exist. But then politics comes along and incites people," Korir said, as a family filled a bucket from a tap at the side of a pond.

The United Nations says 250 000 Kenyans have fled from a week of mayhem following the December 27 election.

Opposition leader Raila Odinga says the result was rigged and Kibaki, hurriedly sworn in on Sunday, is an illegal president.

At least 300 people died in rioting and ethnic killing after the election as other groups took out their frustration on Kenya's largest tribe, which has produced two of the three post-independence presidents.

The worst violence has been in this tribally mixed area, where mobs have attacked Kikuyus with machetes and burned hundreds of homes, forcing thousands to flee in armed convoys.

Eldoret was the scene of similar ethnic reprisals against Kikuyus during the 1992 and 1997 elections.

'Why do we fight?'

At Eldoret's overcrowded Moi Hospital, victims nursing deep cuts were still trickling in, although the violence appeared to have subsided around the country.

A man with multiple gashes in his head, some festering, lay unconscious. Another cried out deliriously: "We are all Africans, all brothers created by God. Why do we fight?"

Police were dismantling road blocks earlier manned by drunken, bloodthirsty youths looking for Kikuyus.

A Reuters reporter saw police backed by a machinegun-mounted pickup truck clearing rocks from the road.

Now victims are counting the cost of devastation that has reduced hundreds of homes to cinders.

"They burned my house, my crops, even my goats. I have nothing left. This is civil war," said Teresa Waitera, 60.

At the scene of the church massacre, Joseph Kwasila, 37, said: "We were friends, they are our neighbours."

Pointing to the burned hulk of a building he added: "They used to take beer and chat with us in that looted and burned shop."

Bishop Korir is not just sheltering Kikuyus, he is trying to push for dialogue.

"We're already beginning dialogue with the warring communities. There's a sign they're slowly coming together."

www.iol.co.za

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Original von pippa
ives wrote

Controlling your wife is sometimes the hardest,most difficult job when married.....
[twinkle] (Hope there aren't any ladies reading this.... [help] )

i simply don't know what you mean:
as soon as i arrive home i get on the foot chain which is limited to the kitchen and dining room only. late night i get a transfer from the kitchen-dining room area to the bath-bedroom. and before ireally start talking i ask my husband whether i am allowed to or not......
he doesn't have problem at all - at least at home.........
you guys must be doing something wrong

Pippa,

I see that you have a fine marriage ....i guess i must be doing something wrong here...
but thanks for the tips, i'll try them out on the wife as soon as she gets home...
Signing off now, have to go to the store (buy that footchain)

Link to this post 07 Jan 08

Guys - if you lioved in Kenya or go there often; no chance that our blood will be taken..! Have tried several times but have always been shown the door.
Why do they take our blood in Kenya and are able to "filter it" and not here in Europe???

Looks like the situation is slowly calming down re reports from Kenya. Good to hear.

El Q - do not try and change or impress your wife; they can see right through us....

Link to this post 07 Jan 08

Nico,
what was i thinking? Pippa got me there for a minute....
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About the situation in Kenya...
My brother wrote me a mail and the Mombasa area is very calm, no fighting what so ever...
At the border with Uganda there seem to be some irregularities.
The situation is turning back to normal....i think that most Kenians know that the future of the country lies in their hands....hopefully they'll realise this also at the top.....


Original von Nico
Guys - if you lioved in Kenya or go there often; no chance that our blood will be taken..! Have tried several times but have always been shown the door.
Why do they take our blood in Kenya and are able to "filter it" and not here in Europe???

Looks like the situation is slowly calming down re reports from Kenya. Good to hear.

El Q - do not try and change or impress your wife; they can see right through us....

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